103: 2021/11/27(土) 07:45:04.33 ID:GRMCnOwcd
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106: 2021/11/27(土) 07:48:13.68 ID:gfu1cery0
いきなり人格豹変するのは、3の千晶とかもそうだし
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120: 2021/11/27(土) 08:05:10.80 ID:ojxWyJvV0
>>106
千晶はサカハギに右腕切り落とされて自分の無力差を知って、ゴズテンノウに呼ばれて魔丞化した。
真3ちゃんとした動機が有るけど真5は薄い。
千晶はサカハギに右腕切り落とされて自分の無力差を知って、ゴズテンノウに呼ばれて魔丞化した。
真3ちゃんとした動機が有るけど真5は薄い。
125: 2021/11/27(土) 08:08:23.83 ID:gfu1cery0
>>120
その程度でいいなら今作の2人も描写は十分
人物の描写不足については3も大概だと思う。つまりどっちも薄い
その程度でいいなら今作の2人も描写は十分
人物の描写不足については3も大概だと思う。つまりどっちも薄い
174: 2021/11/27(土) 08:34:17.73 ID:ojxWyJvV0
>>125
ちゃんと真3やってる？
一部書いただけでそこだけじゃないでしょ？
ちゃんと真3やってる？
一部書いただけでそこだけじゃないでしょ？
186: 2021/11/27(土) 08:41:12.95 ID:McmMl1XL0
>>174
まあ場面転換が少ないかなと思っちゃうかな
万魔会談まで主要人物（ルートキャラ）がちょこちょこ出てくるけど、そこのメイン悪魔にからむわけでもなく
基本ツクヨミ（総理）とアブディエルで完結してるし、八雲＆ジョカもぷらぷらしてるけど大ボス（自身がボスではあるが）に絡むわけでもなく
まあ場面転換が少ないかなと思っちゃうかな
万魔会談まで主要人物（ルートキャラ）がちょこちょこ出てくるけど、そこのメイン悪魔にからむわけでもなく
基本ツクヨミ（総理）とアブディエルで完結してるし、八雲＆ジョカもぷらぷらしてるけど大ボス（自身がボスではあるが）に絡むわけでもなく
133: 2021/11/27(土) 08:16:46.43 ID:14IBWpPs0
>>120
サカハギは抵抗する者は×して皮を剥ぐ、大人しくマガツヒを差し出した者は嬲った後に逃がすという自分なりのルールで動いてた
千晶が生き残ったということは後者パターンだからあの糞高いプライドがズタズタになったろうなって
サカハギは抵抗する者は×して皮を剥ぐ、大人しくマガツヒを差し出した者は嬲った後に逃がすという自分なりのルールで動いてた
千晶が生き残ったということは後者パターンだからあの糞高いプライドがズタズタになったろうなって
107: 2021/11/27(土) 07:49:56.63 ID:X0UBGUacd
人間誰しもペルソナを持ってるからな
豹変くらいするさ
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226: 2021/11/27(土) 09:10:30.72 ID:ojxWyJvV0
真3は登場人物との出会いが少ないけどちゃんと動機と動線が張られてる。
例えば千晶は受胎後シブヤで再会した時に街も家も人も無くなって孤独で泣いてたけど人修羅にあって他の生き残ってる人も居るかもって希望が出て生存者を探しに行く。
次にイケブクロで会った時は世界再編に向けて創世を志してマガツヒを集めに行く。
次はアサクサでサカハギが千晶の腕を切り落としたと発言してる。
次はサカハギにやられてから力を求める様になってイケブクロのゴズテンノウの思念に呼ばれて、ゴズテンノウから力を貰って魔丞化する。
次はアサクサのミフナシロでマネカタが貯めていたマガツヒを使ってコトワリを啓ため必要な神を降臨させてバアル･アバターになる。
で、最後はカグツチの塔で決戦。
真5でこれと同じ様な動機や動線ってあった？
230: 2021/11/27(土) 09:13:34.02 ID:McmMl1XL0
>>226
ないですね、一応太宰はまあまあ描かれてると思います
シャカイナグローリーのおかげで状況が5のほうがゆるいってのはあるけど、3ほどちゃんと描かれてるとは思えない特に眼鏡
ないですね、一応太宰はまあまあ描かれてると思います
シャカイナグローリーのおかげで状況が5のほうがゆるいってのはあるけど、3ほどちゃんと描かれてるとは思えない特に眼鏡
232: 2021/11/27(土) 09:14:28.52 ID:espO9ybA0
>>226
イチロウはいい感じな導線だったと思うよ
ユヅルはもうちょい深掘り欲しかったね
例えば唯一神の現状維持ではミヤズは助からないから多神教でコンスやツクヨミと共にミヤズも生き残れる世界を創世するみたいな、それで東京が悪魔だらけや他の神が攻め込んできても仕方ないみたいな感じで
イチロウはいい感じな導線だったと思うよ
ユヅルはもうちょい深掘り欲しかったね
例えば唯一神の現状維持ではミヤズは助からないから多神教でコンスやツクヨミと共にミヤズも生き残れる世界を創世するみたいな、それで東京が悪魔だらけや他の神が攻め込んできても仕方ないみたいな感じで
233: 2021/11/27(土) 09:15:23.86 ID:8DTHrkn/0
>>226
単品で勝負するなら太宰アブディエル周りのストーリーが真3の連中に負けるとは思わねえな
動機も導線もしっかりしとる
さらにはロウのテーマや宗教的要素も加わってメガテンとしての品質は高めだと思うぜ
総力戦になるとメガネ総理八雲ジョカという恐ろしい助っ人がやってきちまうから分からねえけど
単品で勝負するなら太宰アブディエル周りのストーリーが真3の連中に負けるとは思わねえな
動機も導線もしっかりしとる
さらにはロウのテーマや宗教的要素も加わってメガテンとしての品質は高めだと思うぜ
総力戦になるとメガネ総理八雲ジョカという恐ろしい助っ人がやってきちまうから分からねえけど
235: 2021/11/27(土) 09:16:19.68 ID:L9eBiH7Xd
千晶大嫌いだからそこまで絶賛する感覚が分からんな
もらった力で弱者相手にイキってなんだこいつとしか思わなかったわw
もらった力で弱者相手にイキってなんだこいつとしか思わなかったわw
236: 2021/11/27(土) 09:18:08.95 ID:McmMl1XL0
>>235
キャラへの好き嫌いはあるだろうが、それとストーリーは別だからな
そもそも人修羅もナホビノも、もらった力だからな
キャラへの好き嫌いはあるだろうが、それとストーリーは別だからな
そもそも人修羅もナホビノも、もらった力だからな
239: 2021/11/27(土) 09:20:04.86 ID:ojxWyJvV0
>>235
絶賛はしてないかな。それぞれ考えがあって終盤に向けて極論化していく様を主人公がどう選択するかってのが真1からある女神転生のシナリオの醍醐味だと思ってる。
絶賛はしてないかな。それぞれ考えがあって終盤に向けて極論化していく様を主人公がどう選択するかってのが真1からある女神転生のシナリオの醍醐味だと思ってる。
270: 2021/11/27(土) 09:30:38.17 ID:+Hpb7JQNd
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強さで競う事を謳いながら弱者から搾取してる
コトワリ勢はみな自己矛盾を内包してた
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