793: 2021/08/09(月) 11:29:09.74 ID:k0irrV3Za
物理スキル、検証サイト色々見たんだけど、イマイチ分からんので教えて欲しい
至高の魔弾とデスバウンド、安定して強いのは前者で良い？＝後者は忘れて良い？
全体用に死亡遊戯入れてるんだけど、これ以上にオススメの全体物理ってある？
至高の魔弾とデスバウンド、安定して強いのは前者で良い？＝後者は忘れて良い？
全体用に死亡遊戯入れてるんだけど、これ以上にオススメの全体物理ってある？
794: 2021/08/09(月) 12:07:13.49 ID:5+m9mPQF0
>>793
デスバウンドは２発入らないことが多いから単体攻撃向きじゃない。竜巻の物理版みたいな感じ。上位の全体物理はどれも一定の攻撃力があってHPコスパを取るか攻撃力を取るか、さもなければモーションの好みで選ぶしかないけど、死亡遊戯だけはクリティカル率の関係で特別
デスバウンドは２発入らないことが多いから単体攻撃向きじゃない。竜巻の物理版みたいな感じ。上位の全体物理はどれも一定の攻撃力があってHPコスパを取るか攻撃力を取るか、さもなければモーションの好みで選ぶしかないけど、死亡遊戯だけはクリティカル率の関係で特別
795: 2021/08/09(月) 12:12:14.90 ID:ctTnmrRK0
デスバは忘れていいよ
死亡遊戯なら地母の晩餐の方が威力と消費が上だけど
クリティカル率は遊戯の方が上
死亡遊戯なら地母の晩餐の方が威力と消費が上だけど
クリティカル率は遊戯の方が上
好みでいいと思う
796: 2021/08/09(月) 12:23:27.89 ID:I1mLPohva
なんなら単体ボスでも死亡遊戯でいける
797: 2021/08/09(月) 12:43:57.72 ID:8bLd5v/qr
レベル100くらいまでは活泉つけてHP999にしたデスバが期待値では1番強いんじゃなかったっけ？
891: 2021/08/14(土) 21:51:41.21 ID:L5X1E3jnd
デスバウンドは一人の相手に二回ヒットすることがあると思うのですが気合いいれたら二発とも気合いの効果が乗りますか？破邪の光弾から乗り換えるか迷っていますわかる人いたら教えてください
893: 2021/08/14(土) 22:35:20.73 ID:oGdDScnjd
待ちきれずに三分活泉つける前提でデスバウンドつけてみました
どうやら二発とも気合いのるみたいです
面倒おかけしました
どうやら二発とも気合いのるみたいです
面倒おかけしました
894: 2021/08/15(日) 01:16:11.42 ID:p4Xz2A1Yr
デスバは魔弾や死亡遊戯までの繋ぎとしてはなかなか良い性能してるよね
三分つければ必然的に防御面も強化されるし
798: 2021/08/09(月) 12:47:58.47 ID:u1TcLH2Td
上位技なら何選んでもダメってことはないんじゃないの
全体技なら蹴りがかっこいいからジャベリンとか入れるけどべつに問題ないし
全体技なら蹴りがかっこいいからジャベリンとか入れるけどべつに問題ないし
799: 2021/08/09(月) 14:03:50.57 ID:I1mLPohva
バステ付き物理は消費が多くてな…
800: 2021/08/09(月) 15:27:15.59 ID:bZixZ6Rf0
ゼロスビートとか大して威力も無いのに消費でかすぎて
801: 2021/08/09(月) 18:27:47.92 ID:i9VPPOVG0
せめて貫通が状態異常に乗れば・・・強すぎるか
まず人修羅で状態異常狙うってプレイが相当厳しいというか弱い
ちょっと序盤から進むだけで破魔呪×バステ無効だし
まず人修羅で状態異常狙うってプレイが相当厳しいというか弱い
ちょっと序盤から進むだけで破魔呪×バステ無効だし
802: 2021/08/09(月) 19:07:45.30 ID:/W5UWu8C0
レベル76にもなって呪×有効/魔力・神経弱点の鬼神
803: 2021/08/09(月) 20:14:00.82 ID:+U8kRcNo0
トールさんの悪口はやめるんだ！
804: 2021/08/09(月) 20:46:27.31 ID:cBJapjXBa
レベルが高くなってくると呪×無効じゃないと使う気しないな
805: 2021/08/09(月) 21:26:23.49 ID:jvf3BLAF0
バステ付き物理ってテンタラフーの使い勝手が良過ぎるせいであんま使い道ないよなぁ
808: 2021/08/10(火) 06:52:30.84 ID:Xwcb3LD50
>>805
テンタラフーいいよね。MP消費も少なめだし
テンタラフーいいよね。MP消費も少なめだし
822: 2021/08/10(火) 22:36:16.46 ID:G72Ch9730
テンタラフーはカーリーさんが持ってるのが心強いよな 物理反射出てきたらざまぁって感じで使ってるわ
主役にはならないが緊急避難だ
主役にはならないが緊急避難だ
806: 2021/08/10(火) 00:15:38.43 ID:IuWvIWf00
魔界のしらべとかもだけど、ダメージも与えるバステ系は無駄にならないからいいよね
807: 2021/08/10(火) 01:20:17.99 ID:TzL2BF4Aa
煩悩即菩堤は便利
809: 2021/08/10(火) 07:49:31.07 ID:mPYbzu1u0
最速でサキュバスレベル41か ドルミナーやセクシーアイもついでに拾って雑魚戦用のバステ特化悪魔を作る、とかいうのもありなんかも
810: 2021/08/10(火) 09:10:00.10 ID:87oyJ7+e0
中盤は原色の舞踏でわしょーいしながら敵せん滅は仲魔任せなのが
オイラの定番戦法。
オイラの定番戦法。
バステ専用仲間は別に要らなかったw
811: 2021/08/10(火) 09:29:01.04 ID:h+vntT2Wr
原色は使いこなす人もきくけど、どうしても主人公には別のものをつけてしまうな。実は一度も使ったことがない
812: 2021/08/10(火) 11:05:32.10 ID:GaKDhRhUa
入手が早くて簡単でしかも成功率も高い ただmp消費も多め 混乱の通りやすい敵を知ってればなかなか使えるよね
814: 2021/08/10(火) 12:13:28.23 ID:8poWuYyia
原色の舞踏は主人公専用スキルなのに汎用モーションなのはなぜ
816: 2021/08/10(火) 16:14:13.33 ID:87oyJ7+e0
阿波踊り、盆踊り、安来節、バレエのポーズ、サイドチェスト
好きなのを選ぶがよい。
どれにしても不評だったと思うのであえて作らなかった。に一票w
813: 2021/08/10(火) 11:49:53.49 ID:er9Weh+60
遅レスだが有難う 参考になった
いまカグツチ塔だけど、死亡遊戯→永世モコイブーメランがかなり安定して強い
しかしLv70手前くらいから何故か高レベル仲魔が作り難い（フレスベルグランダニュクスくらい）ので、
未だにフトミミとかブラックライダー予備に連れてるけど、主人公とライドウが強すぎて全然問題ないな
いまカグツチ塔だけど、死亡遊戯→永世モコイブーメランがかなり安定して強い
しかしLv70手前くらいから何故か高レベル仲魔が作り難い（フレスベルグランダニュクスくらい）ので、
未だにフトミミとかブラックライダー予備に連れてるけど、主人公とライドウが強すぎて全然問題ないな
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