1: 2021/09/16(木) 17:32:43.385 ID:fRPsqiMF0
シリーズ初見が4だったので楽しくやれたよ
2: 2021/09/16(木) 17:33:32.492 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
あれが過剰に叩かれるのがわからん
たしかにデザインなど統一性なかったけどそれが理由で？と
たしかにデザインなど統一性なかったけどそれが理由で？と
3: 2021/09/16(木) 17:34:52.533 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>2
メガテンファンは斜に構えた××オタクが多いから仕方ない
メガテンファンは斜に構えた××オタクが多いから仕方ない
4: 2021/09/16(木) 17:34:52.720 ID:Odgal61Jd
メガテンは旧からやってきてたはずだけど3以降の記憶がない
5: 2021/09/16(木) 17:35:50.910 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>4
ある程度歳を重ねたら思い出に残りづらくなるもんだ
FC版からやってるってことは相当な歳だろうし
ある程度歳を重ねたら思い出に残りづらくなるもんだ
FC版からやってるってことは相当な歳だろうし
6: 2021/09/16(木) 17:36:41.725 ID:Odgal61Jd
思い出したジャーニーまでやって結局4やらなかったんだ
7: 2021/09/16(木) 17:37:35.629 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
まあifまではストーリーは本当に淡泊だし
仲魔もほぼ使い捨てで愛着わかないしで
ピンポイントで強烈な所（幼馴染のボディコニアン等）以外は記憶に残りづらい
仲魔もほぼ使い捨てで愛着わかないしで
ピンポイントで強烈な所（幼馴染のボディコニアン等）以外は記憶に残りづらい
8: 2021/09/16(木) 17:37:36.995 ID:dktk382y0
DLCで合体条件解除される悪魔のキャラデザが
ソシャゲみたいにイラストレーター違ってたんだっけ
ソシャゲみたいにイラストレーター違ってたんだっけ
9: 2021/09/16(木) 17:38:02.626 ID:jMLQEdgu0
3の合体で悩みまくって放棄してからやってない…
めちゃおもろいんだけども
めちゃおもろいんだけども
10: 2021/09/16(木) 17:38:32.162 ID:7Cx+7c7b0
逆さヒルズが嫌で周回できない
11: 2021/09/16(木) 17:39:05.134 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>10
なんで？
なんで？
50: 2021/09/16(木) 18:05:07.764 ID:7Cx+7c7b0
>>11
雰囲気、BGM、赤玉の生産過程全部イヤ
アバチュの缶詰工場でもここまで嫌悪感なかったんだけどなあ
雰囲気、BGM、赤玉の生産過程全部イヤ
アバチュの缶詰工場でもここまで嫌悪感なかったんだけどなあ
52: 2021/09/16(木) 18:06:37.132 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>50
赤玉って逆さヒルズだったか
あそこはきついよな
エグすぎる
赤玉って逆さヒルズだったか
あそこはきついよな
エグすぎる
12: 2021/09/16(木) 17:39:13.816 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
4Fは・・・これがよく3DSで出せたなって際どい所が
具体的には14歳のフルボイス
具体的には14歳のフルボイス
15: 2021/09/16(木) 17:41:03.556 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>12
4Fは味方キャラがノゾミさん以外はみんな魅力的でいいわ
古参ファンが起こる理由もわかる気がするけど
4Fは味方キャラがノゾミさん以外はみんな魅力的でいいわ
古参ファンが起こる理由もわかる気がするけど
14: 2021/09/16(木) 17:40:10.425 ID:Odgal61Jd
メガテンは派生が多すぎるんだよ
ペルソナみたいなシリーズものもあればライドウみたいな途切れた作品もある
中でも自分が悪魔で悪魔の因子取り込んで強くなるって奴あったじゃん名前完全に忘れたけど
4はなんかあれと同じ匂いがして「まあ発売されたらやるか」と思って情報断然してたらいつの間にか発売されてて気を逸したパターン
ペルソナみたいなシリーズものもあればライドウみたいな途切れた作品もある
中でも自分が悪魔で悪魔の因子取り込んで強くなるって奴あったじゃん名前完全に忘れたけど
4はなんかあれと同じ匂いがして「まあ発売されたらやるか」と思って情報断然してたらいつの間にか発売されてて気を逸したパターン
16: 2021/09/16(木) 17:41:31.789 ID:ELNcUiTVr
>>14
(´・ω・｀)派生と言っても本編とは関係無い別物だし別に興味無いのはスルーしていいんだぞ
(´・ω・｀)派生と言っても本編とは関係無い別物だし別に興味無いのはスルーしていいんだぞ
17: 2021/09/16(木) 17:42:06.958 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>14
デビサバとか好きだったなぁ
3はよ出せ
デビサバとか好きだったなぁ
3はよ出せ
19: 2021/09/16(木) 17:43:42.271 ID:ZAOZhlgjp
はよう5やりたいわ
なんだかんだ不満点はあってもメガテン面白いよ
なんだかんだ不満点はあってもメガテン面白いよ
22: 2021/09/16(木) 17:45:26.184 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>19
5は主人公がえっちっちだから楽しみ
5は主人公がえっちっちだから楽しみ
20: 2021/09/16(木) 17:44:16.441 ID:ELNcUiTVr
(´・ω・｀)デビサバより魔神転生の新作出して
21: 2021/09/16(木) 17:44:53.815 ID:Odgal61Jd
いやライドウとかは普通にメガテン本編に出てくるじゃん
油断はできんからカバー出来るところはカバーしたいんだわ
まあけど今から4やれってのも難しいしそもそも3DSはどっか仕舞いこんだからプレイするの難しそう
携帯機で出すのやめてほしいわ
油断はできんからカバー出来るところはカバーしたいんだわ
まあけど今から4やれってのも難しいしそもそも3DSはどっか仕舞いこんだからプレイするの難しそう
携帯機で出すのやめてほしいわ
23: 2021/09/16(木) 17:45:48.181 ID:yGh5fKhV0
4fは相当面白かったよ
真3マニアクスとDSJと並ぶぐらい
真3マニアクスとDSJと並ぶぐらい
25: 2021/09/16(木) 17:46:49.813 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>23
DSJって評判悪いと思ってたけど良ゲーなのか
DSJって評判悪いと思ってたけど良ゲーなのか
30: 2021/09/16(木) 17:49:40.635 ID:yGh5fKhV0
>>25
アトラスファンの評判とか何の役にも立たんだろ
アトラスファンの評判とか何の役にも立たんだろ
33: 2021/09/16(木) 17:50:42.443 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>30
たしかにそうだな
あいつら世間的な感覚や一般オタクの感覚と乖離しまくってるしな
たしかにそうだな
あいつら世間的な感覚や一般オタクの感覚と乖離しまくってるしな
24: 2021/09/16(木) 17:46:42.728 ID:Odgal61Jd
5の主人公は女かなと思ったけど体つきは完全に男で俺のオチ×××に反応する
26: 2021/09/16(木) 17:47:36.677 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>24
なんで男の人間と男の悪魔が合体してあれになるんだよ
なんで男の人間と男の悪魔が合体してあれになるんだよ
27: 2021/09/16(木) 17:48:20.186 ID:zL/Y6CaL0
やったはずなのに何故か全く記憶に残ってない
28: 2021/09/16(木) 17:48:46.136 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>27
結構インパクトあるシナリオだったと思うけどなぁ
結構インパクトあるシナリオだったと思うけどなぁ
32: 2021/09/16(木) 17:50:36.650 ID:zL/Y6CaL0
>>28
DSだったからなのかなあ
DSだったからなのかなあ
29: 2021/09/16(木) 17:49:28.465 ID:0tFLn+QY0
ストレンジジャーニーが面白いと聞いた
31: 2021/09/16(木) 17:50:31.426 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
4Fは名作だろ
ゲームは3よりおもろい
ただラスボスが×だから天使悪魔が完全に前座
35: 2021/09/16(木) 17:52:01.482 ID:ZAOZhlgjp
>>31
×に挑むまでのダンジョンあれ攻略サイトなしでいけるやついんのかな？
最初は何とか独力で頑張ったけど無理だったわ
×に挑むまでのダンジョンあれ攻略サイトなしでいけるやついんのかな？
最初は何とか独力で頑張ったけど無理だったわ
39: 2021/09/16(木) 17:53:33.734 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
>>35
いや普通にしらみつぶしで行けるだろ
てかあの手のワープだらけマップは結局自分でマッピングなりして覚えないと
攻略サイトみても記号だらけでわけわからーんになる
いや普通にしらみつぶしで行けるだろ
てかあの手のワープだらけマップは結局自分でマッピングなりして覚えないと
攻略サイトみても記号だらけでわけわからーんになる
40: 2021/09/16(木) 17:53:47.628 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>35
広すぎるよな
アプデ前はマジモンの地獄だったというがやべーわ
広すぎるよな
アプデ前はマジモンの地獄だったというがやべーわ
37: 2021/09/16(木) 17:52:57.584 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>31
キャラ良かったし戦闘も楽しかったからいいゲームだよね
ただ×論破するシーンはちょっと寒かったかも
古き神々を悪魔として貶めてきたハゲが悪魔に貶されるというのは面白かったが
キャラ良かったし戦闘も楽しかったからいいゲームだよね
ただ×論破するシーンはちょっと寒かったかも
古き神々を悪魔として貶めてきたハゲが悪魔に貶されるというのは面白かったが
34: 2021/09/16(木) 17:51:54.522 ID:ELNcUiTVr
(´・ω・｀)あの時のアトラス手抜きリメイクばっか乱発してなんでかと思ったけど5の開発費集めだったんだなぁ
(´・ω・｀)SJ自体はそこまで面白く無いけど3よりは好き
(´・ω・｀)SJ自体はそこまで面白く無いけど3よりは好き
36: 2021/09/16(木) 17:52:30.612 ID:Odgal61Jd
まあどのメガテンも序盤から中盤までは面白いよ
終盤の世界の畳み方は人によって評価異なる
終盤の世界の畳み方は人によって評価異なる
38: 2021/09/16(木) 17:52:58.313 ID:BjyfE4bu0
アバチューもリマスターたのむぜ
41: 2021/09/16(木) 17:55:12.542 ID:Odgal61Jd
ハゲに挑むと聞くとメガテン2を思い出すんだよ
43: 2021/09/16(木) 17:57:56.428 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>41
FC版2 真2 4Fでハゲ倒してるな
ハゲの上位レベルの敵ってデビサバ2のカノープスくらい？
>>42
難易度高いというかただめんどくさいだけで楽しくないわこういうの正直
FC版2 真2 4Fでハゲ倒してるな
ハゲの上位レベルの敵ってデビサバ2のカノープスくらい？
>>42
難易度高いというかただめんどくさいだけで楽しくないわこういうの正直
42: 2021/09/16(木) 17:55:15.009 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
ラスダンがワープだらけで難易度高めるは３もSJもそうだったし
メガテンスタッフの癖なんかもしれん
メガテンスタッフの癖なんかもしれん
44: 2021/09/16(木) 17:59:13.250 ID:yk+rALbYa
今まで避けてきたのにコ×ナで潰れたゲーム屋の在庫処分福袋から4が3本出てきて辛い
47: 2021/09/16(木) 18:02:41.203 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>44
ワロタ
ワロタ
45: 2021/09/16(木) 18:01:41.599 ID:Vpa0Cq+7M
真・女神転生の初代と2とifがだいぶ珠玉だったから
49: 2021/09/16(木) 18:04:13.791 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
>>45
いやifのラスダンもかなりえぐかったぞ
やはりワープだらけで、回復リソース限られてて敵も強いと
全滅してもメリットがあるからといって結構やりたい放題
いやifのラスダンもかなりえぐかったぞ
やはりワープだらけで、回復リソース限られてて敵も強いと
全滅してもメリットがあるからといって結構やりたい放題
69: 2021/09/16(木) 18:55:13.871 ID:KTYjgVBh0
>>49
エストマ
エストマ
46: 2021/09/16(木) 18:02:23.327 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
ペルソナQや世界樹などもラスダンはワープだらけだけど
あっちは基本的になが～～～～～～～～～～い一本道って感じ作りだからダンジョン攻略の難易度自体は低め
ただ単調になる
迷いまくるメガテン系とどっちがいいかは好みわかれるな
あっちは基本的になが～～～～～～～～～～い一本道って感じ作りだからダンジョン攻略の難易度自体は低め
ただ単調になる
迷いまくるメガテン系とどっちがいいかは好みわかれるな
48: 2021/09/16(木) 18:03:41.022 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>46
世界樹って今からやるならどれがいいの？
比較的入門向けでストーリーモードがないやつがいい
世界樹って今からやるならどれがいいの？
比較的入門向けでストーリーモードがないやつがいい
51: 2021/09/16(木) 18:06:09.964 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
何だかんだ評価がいいのはVだったと思う
IV以前はDS作品なので今からやるもんでもと
まあ世界樹は２と新シリーズのぞけば安定して面白い良シリーズよ
IV以前はDS作品なので今からやるもんでもと
まあ世界樹は２と新シリーズのぞけば安定して面白い良シリーズよ
53: 2021/09/16(木) 18:07:03.255 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>51
中古で売ってたら買うわ
中古で売ってたら買うわ
56: 2021/09/16(木) 18:09:01.319 ID:yGh5fKhV0
>>51
個人的に５はシャーマン５が超面白かったけど人に勧めるもんじゃないかな
普通は４だろう
個人的に５はシャーマン５が超面白かったけど人に勧めるもんじゃないかな
普通は４だろう
59: 2021/09/16(木) 18:10:22.442 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
>>56
IVだっけ？
新しいナンバリング程面白い！とは言いづらいシリーズだからどれがどれやら曖昧になっとる
IVだっけ？
新しいナンバリング程面白い！とは言いづらいシリーズだからどれがどれやら曖昧になっとる
61: 2021/09/16(木) 18:14:11.809 ID:yGh5fKhV0
>>59
4が3DSだから多分想像してるのが4だね
ゲームバランスのとてもいい４
敵も味方もやりたい放題で究極ダメージレースの新２
超ボリュームのX辺りが名作（当社比）
あと地図はペルソナQが一番良かったけどこれは多分特殊×癖
4が3DSだから多分想像してるのが4だね
ゲームバランスのとてもいい４
敵も味方もやりたい放題で究極ダメージレースの新２
超ボリュームのX辺りが名作（当社比）
あと地図はペルソナQが一番良かったけどこれは多分特殊×癖
60: 2021/09/16(木) 18:13:05.593 ID:fRPsqiMF0
>>54
4Fで改善されたけど4のはあれだったな
>>56
3DSにある？
4Fで改善されたけど4のはあれだったな
>>56
3DSにある？
54: 2021/09/16(木) 18:08:22.309 ID:YlVzlQYx0
4ってこの悪魔だからこそってのが薄かった気が
スキル継承でどれも似たり寄ったりな性能になるからガワが違うだけみたいな感じになるんだよな
スキル継承でどれも似たり寄ったりな性能になるからガワが違うだけみたいな感じになるんだよな
58: 2021/09/16(木) 18:09:37.987 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
>>54
それは3からの伝統だ
その悪魔固有のスキル１～２だけ保持してあとは汎用的に強いスキルを継承しまくった
似たようなスキルセットになりがち
それは3からの伝統だ
その悪魔固有のスキル１～２だけ保持してあとは汎用的に強いスキルを継承しまくった
似たようなスキルセットになりがち
55: 2021/09/16(木) 18:08:32.400 ID:eSKIMFo90
アバチュは2ありきだからリマスターする手間がね
単体だと炎上もんよ
単体だと炎上もんよ
57: 2021/09/16(木) 18:09:12.935 ID:WW0PFWEga
なんか合体がやりにくくて投げたような気がする
62: 2021/09/16(木) 18:16:28.535 ID:Odgal61Jd
Qは実質世界樹
63: 2021/09/16(木) 18:16:52.061 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
ペルソナQは中身がガチガチの世界樹の迷宮ではあるけどれ
ワールドマップ探索がないのと
ペルソナやってる事前提で知らない人には意味不明会話が乱れ飛ぶのがな
ダンジョン探索にのみ集中できるシンプルさはいいんだが
ワールドマップ探索がないのと
ペルソナやってる事前提で知らない人には意味不明会話が乱れ飛ぶのがな
ダンジョン探索にのみ集中できるシンプルさはいいんだが
64: 2021/09/16(木) 18:20:02.465 ID:yGh5fKhV0
地図を描くことそのものがメインシナリオに繋がってるのはペルソナQ1しかないんだよ
あとアイコンの色変えが出来るのとFOEパズルが世界樹より鬼畜
お祭りゲーだから元を知らなきゃいけない上に世界樹も好きじゃなきゃいけないニッチ産業
あとアイコンの色変えが出来るのとFOEパズルが世界樹より鬼畜
お祭りゲーだから元を知らなきゃいけない上に世界樹も好きじゃなきゃいけないニッチ産業
65: 2021/09/16(木) 18:22:11.915 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
まあP3とP4どっちか知っていればいいから
（ゲーム開始時選択しなかった方の作品はほぼ空気になる）
原作への知識のハードルは思ったほど高くはないんだけどね
（ゲーム開始時選択しなかった方の作品はほぼ空気になる）
原作への知識のハードルは思ったほど高くはないんだけどね
66: 2021/09/16(木) 18:24:24.800 ID:yk+rALbYa
Qは戦闘が好きじゃなかった
Q2はヌルいけど割と好き
Q2はヌルいけど割と好き
67: 2021/09/16(木) 18:24:46.452 ID:fRPsqiMF0
ペルソナQも面白かったな
俺的には難しかったけど世界樹に比べたら難易度は全然低いんだろ？
俺的には難しかったけど世界樹に比べたら難易度は全然低いんだろ？
68: 2021/09/16(木) 18:29:24.371 ID:RH6Lqz3q0
>>67
Qはお祭りゲーの皮かぶってるけど
実際は選択キャラによって結構難易度かわる
ハマムド系使わないと道中結構鬼畜
Qはお祭りゲーの皮かぶってるけど
実際は選択キャラによって結構難易度かわる
ハマムド系使わないと道中結構鬼畜
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